On Christianity colonizing Europe, it is not often recognized by the Western descendants of Europeans, but most of Europe came comparatively late to Christianity, and the missionary activity of the Western Christianity in recent centuries was retracing old ground in Asia and Africa. The Middle Eastern churches - Coptic, Melkite, Assyrian, etc. have a tradition of lineage back to the New Testament, as does Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and the Thomas Christians of Kerala State in India.
Yes, the Celtic church is older than the Anglo-Saxon church, but even the Celtic church isn't associated with an Apostolic figure; not in the way Philip the Evangelist baptized the first Ethiopian in the book of Acts, or Paul ministered in Antioch, or how tradition links John Mark to Alexandria, or Thomas to Kerala, India. Paul went to Athens and Rome, of course, and he planned to go to Spain (some think he made it there), but the rest of Europe waited. The first Celts to have a church, the Galatians, are in the New Testament, but they weren't in Europe, but in Asia, in Anatolia, now part of Turkiye.
Thank you for settling on an Open Thread format. I've tried to join other discussions as Chats and find that interface too unruly. I think (hope) this will work out more smoothly.
That's a good question. I wasn't expecting it, but I got one. When I asked Chat, this is the reply:
When we created the daily Gospel reading automation, the system scheduled it as a task. By default, those task updates can also be sent to your email from noreply@tm.openai.com
The original prompt: Set up a daily schedule with verses from the Bible with the following dates and verses: I listed the dates and verses I wanted (The Gospels). Then asked Chat to post automatically each day using ESV. Apparently, the system set up the schedule as a daily task and sent me the email. Hopefully, it comes again tomorrow.
Not sure what's in store for next month, but I was thinking of setting up the same thing for Paul's Letters.
Agreed. Robert Alter: “The King James Bible . . . remains an imposing achievement . . . It has been such a powerful presence for four centuries of English readers that a translation of the Bible that proceeds as though it simply didn’t exist becomes hard to read as a version of the Bible that has any literary standing.”
Robert Alter also makes the case that the KJV is in many ways more faithful to the Hebrew bible (irrelevant in this case), particularly in starting sentences with "And" rather than something less neutral ("then," "so," etc.).
On Christianity colonizing Europe, it is not often recognized by the Western descendants of Europeans, but most of Europe came comparatively late to Christianity, and the missionary activity of the Western Christianity in recent centuries was retracing old ground in Asia and Africa. The Middle Eastern churches - Coptic, Melkite, Assyrian, etc. have a tradition of lineage back to the New Testament, as does Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and the Thomas Christians of Kerala State in India.
Totally! Britain did get Christianity pretty early it appears, but had to be reintroduced via the Gregorian mission in 600 AD.
Yes, the Celtic church is older than the Anglo-Saxon church, but even the Celtic church isn't associated with an Apostolic figure; not in the way Philip the Evangelist baptized the first Ethiopian in the book of Acts, or Paul ministered in Antioch, or how tradition links John Mark to Alexandria, or Thomas to Kerala, India. Paul went to Athens and Rome, of course, and he planned to go to Spain (some think he made it there), but the rest of Europe waited. The first Celts to have a church, the Galatians, are in the New Testament, but they weren't in Europe, but in Asia, in Anatolia, now part of Turkiye.
Yes! This is highly underappreciated by most of us.
No need for 'spoiler alerts', right? (LOL)
Thank you for settling on an Open Thread format. I've tried to join other discussions as Chats and find that interface too unruly. I think (hope) this will work out more smoothly.
Yes. I don’t enjoy the Chat feature either. I think an Open Thread is more intuitive.
Maybe Kempis' Imitation of Christ, next?
Good idea!
Looking forward to the fellowship
Yes, me too!
I used ChatGPT to set up the schedule you suggested, using the ESV
It sends me an email every morning with a link.
Fantastic use of ChatGPT. How do you trigger the reminders?
That's a good question. I wasn't expecting it, but I got one. When I asked Chat, this is the reply:
When we created the daily Gospel reading automation, the system scheduled it as a task. By default, those task updates can also be sent to your email from noreply@tm.openai.com
The original prompt: Set up a daily schedule with verses from the Bible with the following dates and verses: I listed the dates and verses I wanted (The Gospels). Then asked Chat to post automatically each day using ESV. Apparently, the system set up the schedule as a daily task and sent me the email. Hopefully, it comes again tomorrow.
Not sure what's in store for next month, but I was thinking of setting up the same thing for Paul's Letters.
Dude, that’s killer. Thanks for the tip! I’m going to try that myself.
which translation?
Whichever one you want!
ha get ready for the crusades then 😂
LOL. No holds barred!
Use the King James. Its influence on English goes beyond religion.
Agreed. Robert Alter: “The King James Bible . . . remains an imposing achievement . . . It has been such a powerful presence for four centuries of English readers that a translation of the Bible that proceeds as though it simply didn’t exist becomes hard to read as a version of the Bible that has any literary standing.”
Robert Alter also makes the case that the KJV is in many ways more faithful to the Hebrew bible (irrelevant in this case), particularly in starting sentences with "And" rather than something less neutral ("then," "so," etc.).